Horse Camp the First

[dancinghorse]

I think we have a concept we can run with here. It was a very small Camp, but that turned to be a good thing: my beta tester writes for one of my publishers and comes from a lot of the same places I do, and has minimal horse experience but a goodly amount of research under her belt. So, a good tester and we were able to see how the arc of the weekend worked, what sorts of things I should be sure to do or not do, and how I should schedule and structure the Camp.

Essential factors were:

Need to alternate relaying of information with ample downtime and data-processing time--also good for horse-watching and note-taking. In short--writers need to go off into a corner and like, you know, write.

Related to this was a discovery I've been making with the visits of christymarx and sartorias in recent weeks: that the things I take for granted about this place are the things that enthrall visitors the most. The physical presence of the horses, the way they look and feel, what and how they eat, how the routine works, all those utterly daily things, are fascinating and exotic and, from the expressions of all these writers, wonderful. My camper had the exact same reactions at the exact same times as the others, so I think we're on to something.

Just for starters, trying to do anything like formal instruction outside with the horses crowding around is a lost cause. Campers are going to wander off with their mouths open and their eyes all googly, and pet the curious noses and make wondering noises and watch the pretty horsies. So mostly, if information is to be relayed, it has to happen in the house before and after, via Q&A more than lecture format. Once the horses get into it, that's it. After all, you know what they say about acting with kids and dogs. Horses are 'way worse.

In the periods of "dead air" while I am doing horse chores, it is good to have buffet-style food out and available. (This lesson we've learned over years of running clinics, but Camp structure is a bit different, so it was useful to discover that the same rule applies. It is particularly important at breakfast time, since that's the main chore block and I'm out there for hours.)

The food btw is guaranteed to be good and plentiful. We make that a point of pride. ;>

Video Night is a good idea but offerings need to be short and to the point because by then, campers are plumb tuckered.

But hey, feed 'em, answer their questions, let them have their downtime, give them cat and dog fixes to order, and keep the horses coming, and they'll be happy. :)

So, a success, and a very good trial run. Next one will be in early May right after the Nebulas--I'll figure the exact dates this week. If you want to come and have a preference, let me know. I am considering that if I have a group of four or more, I will give a "beta discount" off the regular rate since it will be the first group and the first set of day campers as well as boarders.

More on that soon.

We did discuss dates and times for future Camps. Since the Nebs are in Tempe, it will be good to offer something right around it. Can't do one beforehand because I have a gig at Yale the weekend before Nebs. After that, mid-October (in between summer heat and the World Fantasy/Thanksgiving/Christmas blockage), and again in February through April--after the holidays and before the hot weather. And a possible summer session for the intrepid who want to experiment with desert and/or hot-weather horsekeeping.

Input on all of this would be most welcome.

And of course, Lipizzan Weekends are still a possibility. Those are booked like B&B weekends, you pick a date within a range (February through April, September through November), two people minimum, four max, and we're good to go. We did a little of that this weekend because it was a tiny Camp--ran a mini-clinic today and it went wonderfully. (Neep on next rock.)

All in all, looking good and I'm pleased. It was lots of fun and a real pleasure to do, and the horses ate it up. Worshippers! All Weekend Long!

Comments

[patchwork-prose.livejournal.com]

Such cheerful news! I'm so glad that it went well and the weekends will continue.

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

I hope they will. It's up to potential campers, of course, to sign up and come. 8)

[gracefulshrimp.livejournal.com]

i think that it definitely makes sense that the mundane and regular to you is what would be most exciting to others. living with those amazing beasts might make you forget they are pretty impressive to us poor minions. hehe

im glad that camp was a success! they need to be so that when i eventually have money and time i can come!!

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

:) I hope I can keep having them.

[kristine-smith.livejournal.com]

I would love to come and get googly with horses someday. Not this year--no vacation left. But I hope you're able to continue these so I can take part in one.

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Maybe next year?

[raithen.livejournal.com]

I like the way you market, my dear ;).

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Who needs the hard sell when you've got Lipizzans?

[raithen.livejournal.com]

and icons like that!

[smoemeth.livejournal.com]

Yay!! I'm glad it went well. :)

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

:)

[monder.livejournal.com]

Yay! Yay! Yay!
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Yay! Yay! Yay!

Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Huzzah!

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

8)

That makes me laugh.

[monder.livejournal.com]

:-) Then my work here is through... :-)

[wrathchylde.livejournal.com]

If this is of any use, I went four or five times to riding camp (2 different stables) and was a CIT (aide) at the last. I seem to recall two lessons a day, with lunch and usually some sort of non-physical activity in between (it was horse movies at one camp, lectures at another). We rotated chores at one camp, I think; I worked at the stables to pay for my lessons, so it's hard now to separate camp from work in memory. I am fairly sure that we were responsible for the grooming, feeding and (oh joy) mucking of the horses we rode that week. Oh, and we did a little mini show at the end of the week, where everyone got ribbons.

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Thanks! This is a writers' camp so not much riding and more class-type work, but the structure is useful to know.

[cindershadow.livejournal.com]

I am so glad it went well! Yes, those of us lucky enough to get our fill of these miraculous creatures on a regular basis can forget how the basics enthrall novices. (I recall how besotted I was as a kid--wearing stupid, ugly rubber boots and jeans on a hellishly hot day to a church outing because of the mere chance we'd get to sit on a Tennessee Walker . . . and being devastated that the pony rides were over by the time I got there! Saving those paper-wrapped pairs of sugar cubes from restaurants all through my childhood in the mere hope that someday I'd get a chance to feed one to a horse! Signing up for so many "horse science" sessions at camp that they ran out of lessons for me, so I gladly spent hours and hours grooming and cleaning tack! They don't call it "horse crazy" for nothing . . . ) So the little girl who galloped around the neighborhood all those years is really happy for all those writers who are going gaga over your beautiful beasts. (And Worshippers, indeed--precisely His Nibs attitude when I come out with the carrots each weekend!)

(Remember, I'm still eager to go with an ad in the journal of your choice. Not a full-page color spread, of course, but I'm sure we could manage something to catch the eye!)

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Remember, I'm still eager to go with an ad in the journal of your choice. Not a full-page color spread, of course, but I'm sure we could manage something to catch the eye!

Thanks so much! Which one would be good, do you think?

[raithen.livejournal.com]

on related issue me=slow.... sorry!

[cindershadow.livejournal.com]

Well, I'd been thinking horse magazines like Chronicle of the Horse, Equus, etc., because I think Lipizzans are unusual enough that a number of horse people would enjoy a weekend with them . . . even the ones who aren't toying with the idea of, say, buying one eventually. (Two summers ago I made a trip up to the Pacific NW, ostensibly to visit friends and relatives but really to check out Lipizzans, Rocky Mountain horses, and some other breeds. A full weekend of learning about a distinctive breed would have been even better than the lovely long afternoon the breeder spent with me.) But the writers' journals are also a good idea, and more what you had originally planned--and I'm just not familiar with them. So if you have some ideas (or anyone else reading this thread has some!) . . . toss them at me!

[cindershadow.livejournal.com]

. . . the copy of Chronicle of the Horse I have in hand offers classified for a minimum of $44, at $11 per line (counting 40-42 characters, including spaces, per line); $15 extra per ad for bold cap headline (up to 15 characters including spaces). They appear to offer more info at www.chronofhorse.com. Equus also has classifieds, but directs one to call 717-540-6792 or fax 717-671-4346 for more info; I'd assume their rates are comparable. I don't know what one of their little box ads would run. Dressage Today might be less of a good bet, because, despite these being the horses who invented dressage, there's all that big-horse snobbery at the moment; however, they must be published by the same folks as Equus, because the phone numbers are the same. (You can email me at cindershadow at aol.com to chat about this, if you'd rather.)

That's the neighborhood I was thinking of (c. $50)--if you'd rather go with the literary magazines, let's do that. If it's easiest for me to Paypal you, just let me know. I figure that putting in the link to your website and putting "Lipizzan" in bold-face should catch those who might be interested, and the pictures and a fuller description of the offerings (maybe also on the website? maybe with photos from the first one?) should do the trick.

And how is that for being a pushy fan?

[seachanges.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad it went well!

[christymarx.livejournal.com]

I'll be the Large White Objects are going to loooove having regular worshippers arrive.

And yes, the daily routine is also of interest because for most of us that is something about which we know the least and is the kind of detail that keeps stories real.

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Now that is true. It's what I know best; I have to tilt my brain around and realize how unusual and exotic it is to the rest of the world.

[moon-happy.livejournal.com]

So happy to hear it went well. What's the Yale gig? Something public? My niece graduates from Yale this spring and is a fan of fantasy. The "big final paper" may be underway and prevent, but if it's public, I'd like to alert her. Thanks!

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

It's a Medieval Studies do--I think open only to grad students and alums, but she should go over to the Grad School and see if she can get in. It's $20 for "current Yale graduate students." Last weekend in April (28th-30th) so long after The Paper is handed in.

There's a schedule (http://www.aya.yale.edu/grad/medieval/default.htm) up if you or she want to have a look.

[raithen.livejournal.com]

oh, you MUST say hi! to Dr. Elizabeth Archibald (the one from University of Bristol) for me - she was a DEAR DEAR prof of mine when I was in undergrad and she was still at the University of Victoria. She may even still remember me ;). We kept in touch for a few years while I was still in Grad School, and then she moved back to Britain and we lost touch. Thus goes things.

And I love the panel you are on ;).

[dancinghorse.livejournal.com]

Ah, Queen Elizabeth! We were at Yale together--I was fresh out of Cambridge (Cantab., not Massachusetts). I'll be sure to give her your best.

The panel is mostly divinely academic ladies for whom "different" means "administration instead of faculty." I feel like such a maverick.

[raithen.livejournal.com]

the world is indeed Very. Small. :D.

And I always liked the mavericks best when I was still in Grad School. Cuz I knew early on I wasn't the traditional academic, and so it helped to see I wasn't alone. Of course, I also didn't finish the PhD, so....