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Chances are decent I will be spamming lj today. We'll see how much brainpower I have, and how much work I get done.

We are all in recovery from a full week of Camp Lipizzan, as blogged by [livejournal.com profile] birdhousefrog and [livejournal.com profile] tcastleb. Consensus is that it was A Success.

Now people are asking about how it works. The sadly outdated web page (I know, I'm awful about that, I get into the brain space where if it's here or on facebook or twitter, it's updated, dammit) has a fair number of details from the early days, but as we've gone on, the concept has evolved.

First, rather than set dates for a public camp, it's mutated into potential campers contacting me and setting up dates that work for all involved. It's also tended to be a solo or two-party adventure. We can do up to 4 if participants will share a double bed in one of the two guest rooms (or if one brings an air mattress and camps in the library).

For the rest of this year and the first half of next, the following dates are taken (those who have taken them: You know who you are): May 12th-26th and November 1st-10th of 2009, and April 18th-25th of 2010. There is a small possibility of adding people to those dates, but additions must be approved by current campers as well as Ye Managemente.

That leaves options for September, October, and the rest of 2010. We can do summer, but campers should be aware that this is southern Arizona, we have triple-digit temperatures Fahrenheit especially in June, and there are monsoons in July and August. We are set up for this and get by in remarkable comfort, but it does put a serious crimp in daytime activities. Mostly, if you go out, you try to do it before 9 a.m. and after sunset.

Still, if you're game, email me. Capriole (the at-sign) gmail (the dot thang) com.

Yes, it started as a weekend arrangement, but has, as we say, evolved. Base concept (and pricing) is three days and two nights, does not need to be a weekend, and can expand (with suitable price adjustments) as needed.

I have concluded that opening to the public, i.e. strangers off the Web, is not in my comfort zone. Therefore I'm open to lj and fb friends, as in people I know personally or who come recommended by people I know (and trust) personally. This includes mentees--and in fact, a personal, one-on-one weekend (whatever actual days one calls by that moniker) can be extremely useful. Rather like those low-residency degree programs. Though I don't think any of them has Lipizzans...

Facilities are comfortable in the "farmhouse comfort" sense. If your idea of roughing it is a suite at the Plaza, or if the word "doublewide" makes your heart palpitate, this is not for you. We are notably more comfortable than the usual college dorm, and I would venture that the food is better. You get one of two guest rooms in a separate wing, which share a bath and a large library with comfy chairs. There is free wi-fi, one guest room has a desk and an all-in-one printer, and there are Room Cats and House Dogs (we can manage a cat-free room if needed, but the house is definitely Cat-Equipped). Also, and probably most important, hot and cold running Lipizzans. As a rule, one of them will adopt you, and do her (or his) best to monopolize you during your stay.

What you do while you're here is pretty much up to you. We can be as loose or as structured as you need us to be, within certain limits. This is a working farm, which means all schedules revolve around the animals. Breakfast and lunch are in the fridge or out on the counter; you get hungry, you eat. Dinner is the sit-down meal of the day, and you get it after the horses, which means after sunset. In spring and summer, that's fairly late, so we encourage campers to enjoy snacks or tea around 4 p.m. Menus are developed in consultation with campers. We can accommodate special dietary needs, though this is not a kosher kitchen. We can do diabetic, vegetarian or vegan, gluten-free, low-carb, low-fat, etc. Default mode is fresh ingredients, low-fat and that includes many of the desserts. Again, the word is "farmhouse" cooking: taste over presentation, and substance over style.

We are quiet, rural, and right outside of Tucson, which has lots of cool stuff to do, much of it related to the history and lore of the Southwest, and various outdoor activities. We're 15 minutes from Saguaro National Park East. This is bicycle heaven, and hikers have it pretty good, too.

But mostly people come here to write. And talk about writing. And write some more. And then play with ponies. If you ride, we can accommodate you. Our Amazing Trainer will come and teach guests for a quite reasonable fee. If you haven't ridden before, or haven't since you were a kid, don't worry. Our horses know just what to do.

Interested? Intrigued? Pop me an email.

Date: 2009-04-27 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I spoke about this with my writing partner, [livejournal.com profile] rachelmanija who was extremely enthusiastic. Let me ask her again.

Date: 2009-04-27 08:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lagilman
stop taunting me, damnit....

Date: 2009-04-27 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lagilman
by the way, I need to pick your brain about L-type movements for a scene I'm writing.... (yeah, the were-unicorn book. God I love this project...!)

Date: 2009-04-27 08:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-27 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
We'd love to see you. :)

Date: 2009-04-27 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcastleb.livejournal.com
Gah. I wanna go back. I miss the horses and the homemade bread and, well, everything.

And, um, my posts are f-locked, but I'll see if I can't write up something nicer now that my brain isn't mush and leave that one open.

Date: 2009-04-27 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Aw thanks. The horses are missing you. Kitties, too.

But we'll be seeing you again fairly soon. :)

Date: 2009-04-27 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanaise.livejournal.com
*dies of envy and jealousy*

Date: 2009-04-27 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoemeth.livejournal.com
I'm not a writer, but I get to enjoy the DHF experience in the familial sense and I can vouch for the comfort level of the guest rooms (in particular the Purple Office), the effectiveness of the daily Corgi/Kitten Alarm, and ZOMG THE FOOD. *g*

Date: 2009-04-27 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-pony.livejournal.com
There're about five states that need to go "poof" to make AZ a do-able drive from here. Perhaps could get by with just three going "poof" too.

Or maybe I could just win the lotto...

Date: 2009-04-27 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com
Really looking forward to seeing you!

Date: 2009-04-28 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miintikwa.livejournal.com
I quite desperately need to, and intend on doing this sometime, but I do not think this year it is. Perhaps one of the 2010 dates will work.

Date: 2009-04-28 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] connerybeagle.livejournal.com
Mymom says, "Oh, BOY can she do gluten-free!"

I don't know what this means. BUT I WILL EAT IT!

a testimonial

Date: 2009-04-28 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raithen.livejournal.com
short version: heaven. on. earth. I cannot recommend this experience highly enough.

Date: 2009-04-28 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firle.livejournal.com
Dear gods, this sounds like my version of writing heaven. Talking writing, actually writing AND playing with Lippizans? *happy shivers*

It will be a while before I can actually consider it for real (as the journey to Tuscon is non-trivial from Germany), but it will go down on my wish list now. If you'll have me in the end, that is.

Date: 2009-04-28 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdhousefrog.livejournal.com
I'm a 3-time "camper." My visits have evolved. I've done some of the touristy things (must eat chocolate-covered pecans and see Baroque church).

DHF is peaceful and quiet. I already live in the country, but I'm a busy mom who runs a house and 10 acres of my own. DHF gives me premium time with another writer, good food, and lets me take a vacation from my usual responsibilities. My camp experience is that I sleep, eat, and face my work in a way I can't back home. It's just me and the page.

Sad to say, I don't always spend lots of time with the horses. But that's because I'm coming to work, not take a vacation. I've used on-site mentoring and I've used the vacation aspect of horse camp. What works for me now is the work part...me and that story. (As evidenced by my blog entries.)

If you use my tag of "horse camp" all photos and all entries related to the three times I"ve been to DHF will show up. None are locked.

It's going to be different for each visitor. And that's an amazing testimonial in itself. If you want to drown in horses, go ahead. If you want to tool around in a car and see the area, go ahead. If you want to hole up and work, do that. It's all possible and to varying degrees.

Bring your camera. Bring your work. Bring your sense of adventure and wonder. Bring your girl-hood love of horses. Oh and bring a variety of clothes because the weather varies quite a bit. Above all, bring DHF good karma.

Karma is the guest-gift I always try to leave behind.
Oz

Date: 2009-04-28 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janni.livejournal.com
If you both come out here there are others of us who want to know so we can say boo, too!

Date: 2009-04-28 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I am going to talk to Rachel--a week at horse camp, and getting to see you and Larry, would be awesome.

My main issue is the weather.

Date: 2009-04-28 04:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-28 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Late September usually isn't awful. Or October. We're open for both at this point.

Date: 2009-04-28 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
What, moi?

Hey, any time you're out this way...

Date: 2009-04-28 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Hey, you can get ponies through Hannah! You don't need to die.

Date: 2009-04-28 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Buy tickets!

The next set of campers is driving from Florida. Through Kansas. If they can do it...

Date: 2009-04-28 05:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-28 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
I think we could work something out. :)

Date: 2009-04-28 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
Hey, I am going back to Colorado for the Sirens conference first weekend in October. Maybe a Dancinghorse Camp before or after could be arranged! Wooee, that would be AWESOME!

Date: 2009-04-28 05:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-28 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelly-yoyo.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting! This (and your emails) have answered all my questions.

Hope to see you this fall!

Date: 2009-04-28 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
:) I hope so, too.

Date: 2009-04-28 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
See? The Universe wants you to do this.

If you come on the way back from Sirens, you'll up the chances of cooler (or at least less hot) weather. It would be a nice way to decompress, too, while taking advantage of the pent-up writing energy from the conference.

Date: 2009-04-28 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
That is a fantastic idea.

I'm going to begin setting aside my tiny paychecks from Publishers Weekly for this.

Date: 2009-04-28 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
If you (and Rachel?) do it, there must be a Party. We are all agreed.

Date: 2009-04-28 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I will talk to her this week--but I want to book the rest of that week--four nights, five days--I know I can come up with five hundred clams by then.

Date: 2009-04-28 06:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-28 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
Oct 5th - 9th, with option of maybe postponing if there is a killer heatwave going on. (Gosh, a bunch of people making a writing week would be sheer heaven.)

Date: 2009-04-28 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
OK, noted. As the first to reserve, you get to weigh in on anyone else who wants to play for those dates.

Date: 2009-04-28 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I am totally easy--just hope that smokers do so outside, due to allergy issues.

Whoopie!

Date: 2009-04-28 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Seriously allergic to tobacco smoke here, too. We set up a smoking area outside, away from the doors and windows. So far guests have been wonderful about it. (We have the best guests.)

Date: 2009-04-28 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceffyl.livejournal.com
this sounds like such a wonderful experience. Horses and fiction? I am so there. :) If only I could bring my girls!

Do you ever travel to other locations for workshops?

Date: 2009-04-29 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
How many girls do you have, and how old are they? Something might be arranged.

It's so hard for me to get away from the farm that when I do, it's only for a couple of days, and usually for a badly needed vacation. Doing camp here started as a way of bringing the writer-folk in since it's so difficult to get out to see them.

Date: 2009-04-30 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com
I'm so glad this is finally coming together for you! Maybe it has been for longer than I realized -- my life went BOOM! in November, and I'm still picking up pieces. Did you make up Horse 101 DVDs?

If I can ever get off the shots, I would love to come out. Life is good here, but clients and their work steal from my time. How big is the fridge? (Toting a few Macrobiotic foods along...) And...would you advise against riding for the arthritis-afflicted? Thinking hands, here.

I decided that I'm old enough to say: "I will do this, and then figure out later how to move mundane work around it." I've lost too many friends too young. No more "Someday" except England -- really want no shots for the British Isles.

But that's a post to come. In the meantime -- More Lipps!

Date: 2009-04-30 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
We have two refrigerators. :) Macrobiotic I haven't done yet. Ooo! Another cuisine to practice!

Can you get the shots in Tucson? I seem to recall you found a way last time you were here?

Hugs on the life-implosion. I did follow that, and am sorry.

As for riding with arthritis, [livejournal.com profile] casacorona knows all about that. Short form: On a good horse, with proper supervision, it's good for you. I have good horses who have experience in working with arthritic riders. And S. is a massage therapist who works with a yoga instructor. :)

Date: 2009-04-30 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancinghorse.livejournal.com
Looks as if we'll be here. :)

Date: 2009-04-30 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miintikwa.livejournal.com
That's good to know!

I also wanted to ask-- I have seen a few people reposting your call for action/list of things you offer; is that something you want done? I will gladly publicize the offer if so!

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